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By Robert Rapier on Nov 22, 2011 with 11 responses

R-Squared Energy TV: Episode 2 – Environmentalist and Debunking Myths

This week’s episode of R-Squared Energy TV considers a couple of questions that I receive from time to time.

The questions are as follows:

  • You’ve called yourself an environmentalist in the past; can you expound on that? What causes do you support?
  • Do you get enjoyment out of debunking myths?

Next week’s episode will touch on the politics of energy, as well as the single most important question to ask when you encounter an energy claim that sounds too good to be true.

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Link to Original Article: R-Squared Energy TV: Episode 2 – Environmentalist and Debunking Myths

By Robert Rapier

  1. By russ-finley on November 25, 2011 at 11:18 am

    Although I have written thousannds of articles and a book about environmental issues, I don’t wear my evironmentalist hat unless I’m surrounded by others wearing one. The word is not that well defined, and to a lot of people that word has taken on a negative connotation, thanks in part to extremists (and idiots) who also wear that label …on their sleeve.

    Most people spreading “bunk” think it is true. To me, that’s just as bad, or worse, than an intentional lie. In the age of the internet, there is no good excuse not to research what you’ve been told. To blindly accept information because it is what you want to hear is as destructive as making up your own BS. You’re just borrowing it from someone else (corn used for ethanol isn’t food, biofuel policy has no impact on food prices, corn ethanol consumes more energy than it produces,  etc).

    Reading something that you agree with or want to agree with is a warning sign to go see what the critics think. More times than I can count I’ve learned that what I read is not accurate thanks to critical thinkers like RR and Geroge Monbiot on the web. On the other hand, critique is sometimes an attempt to spread disinformation as well.



  2. By Walt on November 26, 2011 at 8:09 am

    Russ Finley said:

    Reading something that you agree with or want to agree with is a warning sign to go see what the critics think. More times than I can count I’ve learned that what I read is not accurate thanks to critical thinkers like RR and Geroge Monbiot on the web. On the other hand, critique is sometimes an attempt to spread disinformation as well.




    I’m glad you mentioned the importance of critical thinking…as it is lost for those who ignore finance and prefer to be concerned about the next energy crisis.  This was an interesting list of quotes to consider for the critical thinkers.  I’m sure someone could debunk all these working in Washington, DC and ignore the warnings, but for those of us who are in business…time to wake up!



    The following are 17 quotes about the coming global financial collapse that will make your hair stand up….

    Credit Suisse’s Fixed Income Research unit: “We seem to have entered
    the last days of the euro as we currently know it. That doesn’t make a
    break-up very likely, but it does mean some extraordinary things will
    almost certainly need to happen – probably by mid-January – to prevent
    the progressive closure of all the euro zone sovereign bond markets,
    potentially accompanied by escalating runs on even the strongest banks.”

    Willem Buiter, chief economist at Citigroup: “Time is running out fast.
    I think we have maybe a few months — it could be weeks, it could be
    days — before there is a material risk of a fundamentally unnecessary
    default by a country like Spain or Italy which would be a financial
    catastrophe dragging the European banking system and North America with

    #3 Jim Reid of Deutsche Bank: “If you don’t think Merkel’s
    tone will change then our investment advice is to dig a hole in the
    ground and hide.”

    #4 David Rosenberg, a senior economist at
    Gluskin Sheff in Toronto: “Lenders are finding it difficult to finance
    their day-to-day operations with short-term funding. This is a lot like
    2008 but with more twists.”

    #5 Christian Stracke, the head of
    credit research for Pimco: “This is just a repeat of what we saw in
    2008, when everyone wanted to see toxic assets off the banks’ balance

    #6 Paul Krugman of the New York Times: “At this point I’d
    guess soaring rates on Italian debt leading to a gigantic bank run,
    both because of solvency fears about Italian banks given a default and
    because of fear that Italy will end up leaving the euro. This then leads
    to emergency bank closing, and once that happens, a decision to drop
    the euro and install the new lira. Next stop, France.”

    #7 Paul
    Hickey of Bespoke Investment Group: “More and more, we are hearing
    anecdotal comments from individual and professionals that this is the
    most difficult environment they have ever experienced as the market is
    like a fish flopping around after being taken out of the water.”

    Bob Janjuah of Nomura International: “Germany appears to be adamant
    that full political and fiscal integration over the next decade (nothing
    substantive will happen over the short term, in my view) is the only
    option, and ECB monetisation is no longer possible. I really think it is
    that clear and simple. And if I am wrong, and the ECB does a U-turn and
    agrees to unlimited monetisation, I will simply wait for the inevitable
    knee-jerk rally to fade before reloading my short risk positions. Even
    if Germany and the ECB somehow agree to unlimited monetisation I believe
    it will do nothing to fix the insolvency and lack of growth in the
    eurozone. It will just result in a major destruction of the ECB‟s
    balance sheet which will force an ECB recap. At that point, I think
    Germany and its northern partners would walk away. Markets always want
    short, sharp, simple solutions.”

    #9 Dan Akerson, CEO of General
    Motors: “The ’08 recession, which was a credit bubble that manifested
    itself through primarily the real estate market, that was a serious
    stress….This is much more serious.”

    #10 Francesco Garzarelli of
    Goldman Sachs: “Pressures on Euro area sovereign bond markets have
    progressively intensified and spread like a wildfire.”

    #11 Jim Rogers: “In 2002 it was bad, in 2008 it was worse and 2012 or 2013 is going to be worse still – be careful”

    Dr. Pippa Malmgren, the President and founder of Principalis Asset
    Management who once worked in the White House as an adviser to President
    Bush: “Market forces are increasingly determining what the options are
    and foreclosing on options policymakers thought they had. One option
    which is now under discussion involves permitting a country to
    temporarily leave the Euro, return to its native currency, devalue,
    commit to returning to the Euro at a better debt to GDP ratio, a better
    exchange rate and a better growth trajectory and yet not sacrifice its
    EU membership. I would like to say for the record that this is precisely
    the thought process that I expected to evolve,but when I proposed this
    possibility back in 2009, and again in September 2010, I had a 100%
    response from clients and others that this was “impossible” and many
    felt it was “ridiculous”. They may be right but this is the current
    state of the discussion. The Handelsblatt in Germany has reported this
    conversation, but wrongly assumes that the country that will exit is
    Germany. I think that Germany will have to exit if the Southern European
    states do not. Germany’s preference is to stay in the Euro and have the
    others drop out. The problem has been the Germans could not convince
    the others to walk away. But, now, market pressures are forcing someone
    to leave. Germany is pushing for that someone to be Italy. They hope
    that this would be a one off exception, not to be repeated by any other
    country. Obviously, though, if Italy leaves the Euro and reverts to Lira
    then the markets will immediately and forcefully attack Spain, Portugal
    and even whatever is left of the already savaged Greeks. These
    countries will not be able to compete against a devalued Greece or Italy
    when it come to tourism or even infrastructure. But, the principal
    target will be France. The three largest French banks have roughly 450
    billion Euros of exposure to Italian debt. So, further sovereign
    defaults are certainly inevitable, but that is true under any scenario.
    Growth and austerity will not do the trick, as ZeroHedge rightly points
    out. Ultimately, I will not be at all surprised to see Europe’s banking
    system shut for days while the losses and payments issues are worked
    out. People forget that the term “bank holiday” was invented in the
    1930’s when the banks were shut for exactly the same reason.”

    Daniel Clifton, a policy strategist with Strategas Research Partners on
    the potential for more downgrades of U.S. debt: “We would expect
    further downgrades, a first downgrade from Moody’s and Fitch and
    possibly a second downgrade from S&P.”

    #14 Warren Buffett on
    the problems in the eurozone: “The system as presently designed has
    revealed a major flaw. And that flaw won’t be corrected just by words.
    Europe will either have to come closer together or there will have to be
    some other rearrangement because this system is not working”

    David Kostin, equity strategist for Goldman Sachs: “The wide range of
    possible outcomes on both the super committee process and the unstable
    political economy in Europe drives our view that investors should assume
    the worst while hoping for the best.”

    #16 Mark Mobius, the head
    of the emerging markets desk at Templeton Asset Management: “There is
    definitely going to be another financial crisis around the corner”

    Gerald Celente, founder of The Trends Research Institute: “The whole
    system is going down. Pull your money out your Fidelity account, your
    Scwhab accout, and your ETFs.”



    Let’s see what comes out of the Durban conference on climate change, and where the billions (maybe trillions) being committed will flow in light of the circumstances facing another 2008 correction.

  3. By Walt on November 26, 2011 at 8:21 am


    If the Volt buying public gets nervous, be concerned that GM will see a slow down in sales with this report, and another “game changer” will need to surface for the public to put their children in these cars.


    Battery fires prompt govt probe of Chevy Volt…..ess-autos/

  4. By russ-finley on November 26, 2011 at 10:46 am

    Luckily, Walt

    Predicting the future isn’t easy especially when one realizes that the act of making predictions often alters the future. If economists really could predict the future, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

    As for the Volt battery, I see no technical problem. There may be a PR problem when the lay press gets done with its feeding frenzy to grab readership and advertising dollars. It is always looking for new victims.

    Years ago my neighbor bought one of those glorified golf cart electric cars that use the same lead battery as all other cars, except more of them. It caught fire in the middle of the night and was hauled back to the dealership shooting sparks.

    Gas tanks carry far more energy than a battery and are far more dangerous. Depowering a damaged battery will make it safer. There is a learning curve involved here.

    The article you link to is unaware that the old style of lithium battery chemistry that was so unstable and kept igniting after being shorted has fallen out of use.


    Old chemistry nail test video:…..30fBFitkSM

    A123 nail test video:…..b_J2QQ0k-4

  5. By Walt on November 26, 2011 at 11:48 am

    Russ Finley said:

    Luckily, Walt

    Predicting the future isn’t easy especially when one realizes that the act of making predictions often alters the future. If economists really could predict the future, we wouldn’t be in this mess.


    Written agreements (or legislation) in business and finance don’t predict the future, but do set in place a series of events that will lead to future outcomes.  Good intentions mean nothing when the devil in the details drive the market unfolding in the EU.  There were a very tiny number of economists that were highly critical of the EU agreements which led to the events unfolding.  I don’t call this prediction of the future.  This is why Germany has refused to come to the aide of the EU and why France is likely to face major problems shortly unless Germany concedes.  I hope they do not and a new global currency is put in place as the framework is already defined and plans are sheduled for this in the event the Euro enters crisis phase.  I don’t see this as predicting anything in the future, but a global currency is what people want in the marketplace to peg other currencies and I believe they will get it when the financial system gets worse.  The rest of the world is not likely to let the US and EU collapse their economies without a plan.  I know the interbank market is not going to allow it to happen.


    Let’s see what happens.  The list of “public” comments above give us food for thought that the markets are concerned.  That is the point.  I don’t think anyone is predicting a collapse…I think they are preparing themselves for a set of policies and agreements to get us into the next phase of global monetary policy where China, Central Asia, Russia and Japan have more say.

  6. By OD on November 27, 2011 at 1:32 am

    Those are certainly some scary quotes, Walt. The list of potential threats that may doom us, seems to be never-ending.

  7. By Daniel Dick on November 27, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    Hey Robert,

    I am a deeply concerned but cautiously optimistic young man, and I very much respect your work. I first became aware of your blog through the writing of Robert Bryce, but also saw you linked by that “misanthropic iconoclast” over at Al Fin. If you have any free time and would be open to the possibility, I would like to communicate with you via email – I have some quick questions.


  8. By rrapier on November 27, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    Daniel Dick said:

    If you have any free time and would be open to the possibility, I would like to communicate with you via email – I have some quick questions.


    Hi Daniel,

    Sure thing. My e-mail address is in my resume under the “About Me” box at the upper right of the main page.

    Cheers, Robert

  9. By Walt on November 28, 2011 at 9:07 am

    OD said:

    Those are certainly some scary quotes, Walt. The list of potential threats that may doom us, seems to be never-ending.


    I do not subscribe to doomsday events unfolding in 2012 using predictive and NASA modeling…whether man made or by planned alien attacks promoted in circles.  My concern is that we are in new territory where bankers have never gone before, and governments need to shore up confidence in the market.  While most of the populace and liberal/establishment bloggers are confident in the economic recovery, as a conservative I tend to broaden my data set beyond propoganda coming out of Washington on economics.  Contrary to extreme views, I do not seen any doomsday events in the near future, but rather some major corrections unless they can continue this trend into 2012 and 2013…I’m skeptical they can.



    Indicatively, global GDP is about $63 trillion if one can trust any
    numbers released by modern governments. Said otherwise, for the six
    month period ended June 30, 2011, the total number of outstanding
    derivatives surged past the previous all time high of $673 trillion from
    June 2008, and is now firmly in 7-handle territory: the synthetic
    credit bubble has now been blown to a new all time high. Another way of
    looking at the data is that one of the key contributors to global growth
    and prosperity in the past 10 years was an increase in total
    derivatives from just under $100 trillion to $708 trillion in exactly
    one decade. And soon we have to pay the mean reversion price.

    What is probably just as disturbing is that in the first 6 months of
    2011, the total outstanding notional of all derivatives rose from $601
    trillion at December 31, 2010 to $708 trillion at June 30, 2011. A $107 trillion increase in notional in half a year. Needless
    to say this is the biggest increase in history. So why did the notional
    increase by such an incomprehensible amount? Simple: based on some
    widely accepted (and very much wrong) definitions of gross market value
    (not to be confused with gross notional), the value of outstanding
    derivatives actually declined in the first half of the year from $21.3
    trillion to $19.5 trillion (a number still 33% greater than US GDP).…..trillion-6



    I still believe that economic recovery in the USA and largely global economic recovery, will be the main source driving energy policy no matter who is elected our next President.  Like the nuclear event recently in Japan, it was a game changer for nuclear policy worldwide…especially in Europe.  I see the same think linking economics and energy policy.


  10. By Walt on November 29, 2011 at 7:37 am


    You just have to love bankers…a class unto themselves when it comes to writing legislation to insure they smell like Roses!



    The bill will monitize all asset classes (including trillions of private bank derivatives that are going into default) upon the American people.  Of course, who cares…if the media does not bring up this on the front page of Reuters it must not be a problem…yet.


    Well, it has already started.  I know speaking out against bankers is highly upsetting to some people in many circles, but let’s just say I’m speaking out against their stealth operations to protect themselves while INSURING (literally) they have no risks to their bonuses or profits.




    Three years after taxpayers rescued some of the biggest
    U.S. lenders, regulators are grappling with how to protect FDIC-
    insured bank accounts from risks generated by investment-banking
    operations. Bank of America, which got a $45 billion bailout
    during the financial crisis, had $1.04 trillion in deposits as
    of midyear, ranking it second among U.S. firms.

    “The concern is that there is always an enormous
    temptation to dump the losers on the insured institution,” said
    William Black, professor of economics and law at the University
    of Missouri-Kansas City and a former bank regulator. “We should
    have fairly tight restrictions on that.”…..-unit.html




    I know…some will argue…what does this have to do with energy?  Well, everything.  You will see who the government is picking as the winners and lossers in energy as usual.  Another mountain of legislation is coming to “protect” the American people from terrible oil companies before the election (often passed in the first 100 days after the election).  You can see these plans on each candidate website running for election.  Watch the bankers pour (literally dump) money on these candidates like at no time in history to insure they have no risks in this coming correction.  They did it wonderfully in 2008 when they threatened to totally collapse the economic system on Wall Street unless they got Congress to give the Treasury and Federal Reserve complete authority over the abillity to print debt without their consent.  Now comes the real move to shift all of this private bank debt and risk to the public hands INSURING they will be protected.


    It is time to watch not only energy policy, but also watch these bankers who love to remain stealth in their legislative agenda.

  11. By Walt on November 29, 2011 at 7:54 am


    I could not help myself but to show people how the banks got $7.7 Trillion and it only makes one wonder what is going on now planning for the next crisis to save the bankers from their foolishness.


    Let’s focus on the crude oil pipeline coming out of Canada and leave the bankers alone…the real evil is that stupid pipeline to deliver oil.  Sad.


    What the article shows is that the Federal Reserve can (and will/does) anything it wants to do without congressional or treasury approval going back to 1985.  I can see why they refuse any audit and when they lie to congress they are immune from prosecution due to their power.



    The Fed didn’t tell anyone which banks were in trouble so
    deep they required a combined $1.2 trillion on Dec. 5, 2008,
    their single neediest day. Bankers didn’t mention that they took
    tens of billions of dollars in emergency loans at the same time
    they were assuring investors their firms were healthy. And no
    one calculated until now that banks reaped an estimated $13
    billion of income by taking advantage of the Fed’s below-market
    rates, Bloomberg Markets magazine reports in its January issue.

    $7.77 Trillion

    The amount of money the central bank parceled out was
    surprising even to Gary H. Stern, president of the Federal
    Reserve Bank of Minneapolis from 1985 to 2009, who says he
    “wasn’t aware of the magnitude.” It dwarfed the Treasury
    Department’s better-known $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief
    Program, or TARP. Add up guarantees and lending limits, and the
    Fed had committed $7.77 trillion as of March 2009 to rescuing
    the financial system, more than half the value of everything
    produced in the U.S. that year.

    “TARP at least had some strings attached,” says Brad Miller, a North Carolina Democrat on the House Financial
    Services Committee, referring to the program’s executive-pay
    ceiling. “With the Fed programs, there was nothing.”

    Bankers didn’t disclose the extent of their borrowing. On
    Nov. 26, 2008, then-Bank of America (BAC) Corp. Chief Executive
    Officer Kenneth D. Lewis wrote to shareholders that he headed
    “one of the strongest and most stable major banks in the
    world.” He didn’t say that his Charlotte, North Carolina-based
    firm owed the central bank $86 billion that day.…..ncome.html

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